Thanks Mark. Really appreciate that thoughtful response. I guess the first step, as always, is to overtly acknowledge and then own the fact we have a problem. I feel this is like impossibly hard group therapy! We need to remove the places we all try to hide, the worthy but weakly ineffectual efforts that sclerotise real change – what another respondent called ‘green wishing’ – the work that will never deliver the outcomes required. This is a Gordian Knot to unpick for sure, but without hauling our collective mess onto the table, instead of brushing it under the (Interface, closed loop, ‘Climate take-back’) carpet, where we can all see it for what it really is, we’ll remain as the great Tom Robbins put it ‘half-asleep in frog pyjamas’ 😬